And some useful commentary from the sweeping zen site on the above posting:
[*]Jeff Konrei MindeJuly 6, 2015 at 11:37 am
Two thoughts on this: One, that we should never, NEVER, *NEVER* invest any teacher with such authority as did Jiun. Zen teachers are human. Wearing the patched robe is supposed to make us more so, not less so. Two, though that “apologies” are fine and necessary, it is what happens after the apology that counts. I have seen too many teachers and too many pro forma apologies in the Zen community. I’d rather just say it from the outset:
“This is a kesa, not a cape; and I AM going to screw things up more than once. Be patient with me, friends.”Reply
[*]Mike CarterJuly 6, 2015 at 2:06 pm
An apology is fine but it’s not really the heart of the matter.
You were hungry/greedy for something and that blinded you to what was going on. What’s more your hunger/greed was exploited to create a shield of concealment and enablement. Your need and desire for ‘attainment’ and ‘approval’ was fed and exploited not diminished.
I don’t think there’s a lot to separate out. A guy who exploits and manipulates others is doing nothing more than spreading delusion and pain. This stuff is really simple. Is someone helping others to eliminate sufferring or is he creating it. Maybe he had some attainment, maybe not. Where did it take people?
So much destruction caused by one man.Reply
[*]Hollis deLanceyJuly 6, 2015 at 9:57 pm
Where is your email address? A very close friend of mine had to give this guy oral sex EVERY DAY, when she went in for Dokusan. She had/has unbelievable PTSD. She told me other women made her go into Dokusan and that they knew about it. She says that other women knew what was going on and did not do anything to stop it or help her or tell her she did not have to do it. They conspired to enable Sasaki and disempower her, using social pressure to make her feel an oppressed lower class member of the organization. How can you write something like this and not give your email address so that I can at least inform my dear friend of your offer?Reply
[*]PaulJuly 13, 2015 at 2:35 am
Here’s the root of the problem: :He was someone I trusted with my life for proper Buddhist guidance, someone supposedly enlightened, to whom I gave my complete faith and obedience.”
The word “enlightenment” has a very specific meaning in Buddhism, which has been lost and/or corrupted through the ages. Gotama became enlightened under the Bodhi Tree, when he had that one thought-moment in which he completely, utterly and finally extinguished his ego-self consciousness – aka “the builder of this house of suffering”.
Until then, he really wasn’t enlightened, in the true sense of the word. He was part way up the mountain, sure – but he hadn’t reached the pinnacle we call Buddhahood or enlightenment.
Your teacher was not enlightened. Period. He was part way up the mountain, he apparently had a lot of mojo, he could quote sutras and commentaries, and do all the things that teachers do. But being part way up the mountain, his ego-self was still very much a part of his mindstream.
The problem – the real problem – is that almost all Buddhists these days are apparently ignorant of this simple Dharma truth. Thinking that your teacher is actually ENLIGHTENED is just a massive and tragic Dharma mistake that produces these sorts of outcomes over and over again.
If you want to refer to Nagarjuna’s 10 Bodhisattva Stages, a sentient being doesn’t even reach the point of NON-RETROGRESSION until he or she has reached the eighth of the ten stages. Nagarjuna described himself as having reached the first of the ten stages…so just how far along do you think you or any of your teachers (living or dead) actually have gotten to, anyway?